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						Bernard Nicod has lost none of his youthful energy.  
						Here, an archives photo brings out his extraordinary 
						physical  
						and intellectual strenght which he still retains today. 
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												Lausanne, 24th June 2016. The 
												BREXIT has now been accepted and 
												the business world falls into 
												uncertainty. Thanks to the 
												engagement also on the proprety 
												front in Switzerland of our 
												consultant, the courtier Jamil 
												Boukarabila, close colaborator 
												of the President of the Bank of 
												New York (Switzerland) at the 
												beginning of the 2000s, we are 
												lucky to be able to offer 
												internauts the exclusive 
												interview of the man who has 
												dominated the Swiss-French 
												property scene for numerous 
												years.
												Bernard Nicod impresses by his 
												dynamism and the enthousiasm 
												with which he has never stopped 
												overcoming difficulties, finally 
												producing the finest projects 
												for property in the Canton de 
												Vaud, at the height of the 
												visionary that never stops 
												being. From his headquarters on 
												the Avenue de la Gare in 
												Lausanne, Bernard Nicod did not 
												hide his disappointment, but 
												also admitted that the English 
												reaction was understandable in 
												certain aspects.
												 
												 
												Jamil Boukarabila : « 
												How do we react to this BREXIT ; 
												you don’t seem very happy…. »
												 
												
												« I can easily 
												understand that the English have 
												voted for the BREXIT… »
												 
												Bernard Nicod : « 
												Firstly, this is a catastrophy ! 
												A real catastrophy !! But let’s 
												try to identify the causes of 
												the catastrophy, like after 
												grave accidents or even wars, 
												there are always causes.
												I can easily understand that the 
												English, especially those of a 
												certain age, those who are 
												living in the country side, and 
												neither so young revellers nor 
												members of the golden youth of 
												the town who earn colosal sums 
												without effort or pain in 
												finance, have voted for the 
												BREXIT. Also I can understand 
												those who have fought in the 
												war, worked, known the British 
												Empire, power, say they ‘ve had 
												enough of financing useless 
												civil-servants, grossly 
												overpaid, but especially useless 
												for the most part, and who are 
												among other things specialists 
												in the calculation of the 
												diameter of green peas, 
												especially when it’s about 
												putting them in a can which is 
												controlled by European Union 
												norms. And all this while 
												European farmers can’t earn 
												their living or even commit 
												suicide.
												So in some ways, I understand 
												them very well. I understand 
												them also when we know the 
												enormous expenses involved in 
												the travel of European 
												commissars, the magnanimous way 
												they are paid for their daily 
												life. The European Union has 
												suffered for many years now from 
												a terrible disfunctioning 
												because of completely useless 
												people who spend their time 
												laying laws, costly and 
												unproductive regulations.
 
												
												Jamil Boukarabila : « The 
												European Union as its founder 
												members wanted it to be was 
												worth more all the same… »
												 
												
												« Adenauer and 
												De Gaulle’s vision has been 
												betrayed… »
												 
												Bernard Nicod : « In 
												fact we have betrayed the great 
												idea at the base of the premises 
												of the European Union, that of 
												Adenauer and De Gaulle. Finally 
												we have distorted their vision 
												of Europe ! Today instead of 
												this noble idea, we have 
												thousands of civil servants, 
												members of parliament, and 
												especially completely useless 
												civil servants. And I can 
												understand -unless we revolt- or 
												at least we refuse this regime 
												of civil servants who lay down 
												laws and useless regulations 
												which cost so much.
												To all this must be added that 
												there is a lack of valid 
												leadership in this European 
												Union and this is especially 
												flagrant in certain countries 
												like France for example. 
												François Hollande- I don’t hide 
												the lack of estime I hold for 
												him !- This lack of cohesion 
												which finally comes from an 
												absence of valid leadership, 
												even a well shared leadership 
												between the heads of state, as 
												in the time of Adenauer and De 
												Gaulle that I have just 
												mentioned, but also as it was at 
												the time of Valery Giscard 
												D’Estaing and Helmut Schmidt, or 
												more recently at the time of 
												François Mitterand and Helmut 
												Kohl, well then, this lack of 
												cohesion runs the risk of a 
												domino effect of the BREXIT on 
												the European Union.
												Look at what is already 
												happening in Northern Ireland : 
												They have only one desire since 
												this morning, which is to 
												unstabilize the BREXIT in any 
												way they can.
												We can imagine that the bill 
												will be frightening for the 
												English. This political bill, or 
												even this political break, is 
												extremely serious for the West 
												and for Europe. « Our Europe » 
												even if we the Swiss are not 
												part of it.
												
												Jamil Boukarabila : « Is 
												it really a problem for 
												Switzerland ? »
												
												Bernard Nicod : « Yes, of 
												course. As far as the bilateral 
												agreements are concerned we 
												cannot go so easily to Brussels 
												to negociate them, because now 
												the European Union has many 
												other things to do for the next 
												few years than to be concerned 
												with Switzerland ! The BREXIT is 
												therefore a serious problem for 
												Switzerland.
												I remind you that the « 
												bilaterals » were to be 
												renegociated very soon. However 
												now what will we be able to do ? 
												Not very soon probably. For it 
												is necessary at the same time to 
												apply the initiative against 
												mass immigration and save the 
												bilateral agreements in a 
												complex political procedure. So 
												it is an unreasonable tidal 
												wave. »
 
												
												Jamil Boukarabila : « 
												Isn’t mass immigration the end 
												of the fuse which ignites the 
												powder ? »
												 
												
												« Situations 
												like Calais, it’s really time 
												they stopped ! »
												 
												 
												Bernard Nicod : « I 
												can also understand that the 
												English who want to live in the 
												towns cannot pay the prices so 
												much have they gone up. If the 
												prices have climbed, it’s 
												because of the arrival of 
												foreigners lured by the 
												financial sector. Imagine that 
												there are 300,000 French living 
												in London. These foreigners in 
												London do not live under the 
												bridges, believe me. On the 
												contrary they have mobilised 
												numbers of flats which in the 
												past were occupied by English 
												people. So the English can no 
												longer find correct lodging 
												following the arrival of all 
												these rich foreigners who take 
												up a lot of space and of whom 
												certain are very dangerous 
												because they come from dangerous 
												coutries ! »
												
												Jamil Boukarabila : « 
												Yes, we see it, the security 
												argument has probably also 
												played a role in the success of 
												the BREXIT. The large movements 
												of population which we have been 
												subjected to in recent months, 
												and the way the European Union 
												has reacted, all this has had an 
												impact on the English when they 
												voted. »
												
												Bernard Nicod : « I can 
												understant that half the world 
												wants to go to England, but 
												logic says we must call a halt 
												there.
												The scandalous situations that 
												we saw in Calais and which have 
												lasted too long, as much for the 
												French as for the English and 
												especially for the refugees 
												themselves besides !! this must 
												be stopped. It is a pure 
												European political problem. If 
												the European Union is not able 
												to agree on this, what will they 
												agree on ? »
												 
												
												« The major 
												risk : The Germans will have had 
												enough one day !! »
												 
												Jamil Boukarabila : 
												«It’s another problem of 
												leadership, isn’t it ? Besides 
												we must wonder if after the 
												infructuous attempts of people 
												like Julius Caesar and Napoleon 
												to impose a certain cohesion on 
												all the peoples of Europe, 
												people of such different 
												mentalities, can we think that 
												today a European political 
												leader would have the quality 
												and the means ? »
												
												Bernard Nicod : « Oh… you 
												know Mrs. Merkel does not lack 
												quality and she has already 
												proved it !
												I see a major risk in the fact 
												that the Germans may have had 
												enough one day. That they will 
												be sick of the cost of Europe 
												for their economy. And that is 
												the dam which gives way for 
												ever.
												
												Jamil Boukarabila : On 
												the subject of the English and 
												the Swiss… They have left our 
												country in recent years. They 
												are no longer the customers they 
												were in the 70s and 80s in 
												Switzerland. »
												
												Bernard Nicod : « Yes, 
												they come much less now. They 
												are more and more who come to 
												ski in the winter resorts ; but 
												on the other hand we see less 
												and less buying flats or 
												investing in Switzerland.
												You know, the English are going 
												to suffer from their decision 
												all the same. Because I think 
												that rightly or wrongly the 
												European Union is not going to 
												close the door to them, but it 
												will give them a hard life.
												
												Jamil Boukarabila : « 
												Unless perhaps things happen 
												quickly in Europe and there are 
												suddenly two or three other 
												countries who also leave the 
												union…. As for the pound 
												sterling it could very well 
												become strong. »
												
												Bernard Nicod : « The 
												omelette is already overturned. 
												It would be a wise man who could 
												answer that ! It is much too 
												complicated to make conjectures 
												from today, just a few hours 
												after the BREXIT vote.
												Thank you and I wish a nice day 
												to you and to your internauts. »
												
												Jamil Boukarabila : « And 
												thank you Mr. Bernard Nicod. »